Sorry 9132, I can see the resemblance for sure, but I didn't mean to copy your upload. I started out trying to make something totally different that didn't work (the salt would turn into saltwater and maker the vine expand). Then I just messed around until I got something that looked cool. That said, your alternator is really more impressive for having the whole thing rotate and move.
HDE1000: I believe HTHDisney101 begun the SCP uploads.
Where did all these SCP posts come from?
skyk and icebot copied my Altenater
could you believe that skyk ,9132, and icebot game looks the same
Do you still have the old password? I can help
@tauss#2
tauss=tauss#2=tauss#3
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@9132
This is tauss's bogus account ever since some thug stole my windows 7, therefore tauss#2=tauss and tauss had higher experience than you giving me (tauss#2) the power to say, "YES, thats a gooooood idea!"
Do you think I should make a special work for the Total Solar Eclipse on Monday? Tell me if that's a good idea or not.
and since everything I say seems to be untrue, Dracobot is not Esigma.
@Hotdogeater
I believe the punishment should be as bad as the crime, maybe a bit worse.
@Vidkunssonn
It may work in some cases, but in most cases the person is beyond repair. A bad childhood can fu,ck you for life.
@Dracoo
Peer pressure is weaker than commonly thought. I've been offered heroin and to go on robberies in high school and I easily turned that down without question, because I knew doing those things would be bad. Its not impossible.
Or I could just do this.
And if you STILL don't believe me, you can go to one of my uploads, copy my name, paste it into the text box here, and use Find to prove that it is character-for-character my username.
Its been three days since AD replied to anything and he didn't give a warning that he wouldn't be able to reply
@Dracobot
Well I still don't believe your Σsigma, UNLESS you put my name in a work today. Because it is hard to believe otherwise.
@9132
...WELL.
They're still better than the majority of them.
123_321's are pretty decent (the TTT impressed me), but most lack originality.
@amazingdude
Peer pressure is a powerful force.
But surely there will be some kind of monitoring, right?
*cucumbers
So apparently cucumbes are berries and raspberries are not. Is nothing sacred anymore?
@Dracobot
I know sigma but those work stink compared to 123_321's
@skyk
Whats happening to your works, bro? There steadily declining :(
@amazingdude
Repeated offenses is not exactly common among criminals who went through rehabilitation. If the rehabilitation doesn't work the first few times, that's usually when they give up trying to make them better.
yep
I'm mad so I've made a bunch of spam bots
Still, alot of the punishments will probably be crueler than the crime itself was
@Vidkunssonn
If we teach them the good way, who's to say they wont go back to a life of crime? Then itll be a waste of time and we'd have a criminal out on the streets. Best to just lock them up so it doesnt happen.
@Draco
Kids are stupid, you are absolutely right. Besides, the future thugs are likely bullies in school and getting in trouble all the time. Why would anyone want to hang out with someone who gets in trouble all the time?
The 8th only applies when the government applies the punishment, not the citizens.
@Dracobot I'm late to say this but you're welcome!
Boobs.
@Dracobot/Σsigma
You're Σsigma!? *faint*
Ooh, free advertising? I'm in.
I won't get any votes out of it, but there's always hope that some will see my stuff and realize what good uploads actually are.
@9132
All of my uploads are under the username "Σsigma" (without quotes), so that would be the name to credit me as.
I'm so mad, someone stole my windows 7. Now I've lost everything! RAGE!!!
Thanks for the 1000th vote! Respond to this message and i will credit you in my work celabration!
Try telling that to children who don't have the sense of danger as adults. Sure you can tell any adult not to do something and why you shouldn't do it and they would probably listen because they automatically understand the connection between the two. On the other hand, we have to hold on to our children so that they don't run into an active street, and telling them not to do that probably wouldn't be nearly enough because children aren't aware of danger all the time unlike adults. Even teenagers disobey parents (sometimes for the sake of disobeying) unless they absolutely fear their parents/guardians or are one of those few that develop maturity early on.
>Victim's choice in punishment
Hmm, are we at least going to let them settle down first? I foresee the Eighth Amendment's invocation being quite common.
I used to think that way too, but punishment is not always the best way to get through to someone. The idea of criminal rehabilitation is to teach criminals the better way that they never learned in their early life. The only time that doesn't seem to work is when the criminal enjoys their life of crime rather than that being the only thing they knew, which is the threshold at which I will call someone "unfixable".
@Draco
How is interacting with thugs unavoidable? Just dont interact with them. Dont hang out with bad people. How is it more complicated? Go to school, stay away from the bad kids, come back home, stay home, repeat for 18 years. Nobody is forcing you to hang out and be like the bad kids. It doesnt get more simpler than "just dont hang out with the bad kids". You dont have to go hang out with the bad kids while they go rob people or sell drugs. If someone has good parents then they are less likely to be converted in a bad neighborhood.
Then incarcerate the young criminals so they cant keep fu,cking up the neighborhood. What we need to do is get rich people to move into these bad neighborhoods and bring money into the economy, which will reduce crime. Poverty is a major cause of crime.
Well, you might feel differently, but I would want them to suffer for their crime. Perhaps let the victims decide the punishment.
@Vidkunssonn
Either way, they commit crime, they deserve to be punished. Throw them into prison so they wont spread their crime ridden ways to their children. You really think that teaching somebody whos been doing crime all their life the right way is going to change them? They're unfixable.
@TK
Good idea. Throw the mentally ill into asylums and thugs into prisons.
Technically, a mental illness wouldn't be their fault either. Unless they got it from jumping off a bridge or whatever. That's why we have insane "asylums" instead of insane prisons, it's a place to protect sick people from themselves.
Thanks to Lightning Lord/Dark Doctor and Zeodexic for helping me test it.
By the way, that long string of consecutive comments earlier was a hypothesis I was testing. I was able to comment five times in ten minutes.
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@amazingdude
No, that is not what I'm saying at all. I'm about to hit you with the ultimately insulting "never mind" because you can't seem to correctly comprehend anything I say. As a logician, I cannot tolerate your deliberate misconceptions of my words. That's not how you win arguments; that's how you get your ass beat.
At no point did I ever say "mental illness". It is not a mental illness to be raised in a way that society looks down upon. They're not insane for committing crimes, it's all they know because they were never taught how to live better. They only know how to survive utilizing crime because nobody ever taught them important life skills that could have led them to a successful, bountiful life. It's sickening for you to say that they have mental illnesses because they simply don't know a better way, because it's not their fault.
One person almost never serves as good representation of a large chunk of the population. For all we know, you might have gotten extremely lucky and that 99% of residents in your neighborhood become criminals in their lifetime. And you might say that you don't personally know anyone who has committed a crime, but you still can't say anything about bad neighborhoods anywhere else.
Some people may not have a choice of interacting with thugs. If they grew up there, then they probably spent around two decades of their lives there. It's almost impossible not to have extended exposure to thuggery over a period of time that large, especially in the worse places. There's a reason why bad neighborhoods have thugs and why the number of them doesn't die down over time. It's most likely because that number is being replenished every generation.
And again, I would be happy that the criminal is getting help instead of being simply set aside like they have no worth (you will likely disagree), as I honestly believe everyone should feel about the situation, but one opinion doesn't matter that much most of the time. But anyway, they wouldn't be set free *until* they are fixed, and if that doesn't happen in a reasonable amount of time, then some form of jail time may be considered.
@Dracobot
I grew up in a bad beanerhood. I didnt turn into a crime ridden wreck, did I? No. Bad neighborhoods do not contribute to crime. Just dont hang out with thugs. Putting criminals in therapy would not help victims, who will be mad that their criminal is going to be back out, regardless of if he is fixed or not.
I'm against the switch to metric system.
@Vidkunssonn
So what your saying is that criminals ARE mentally ill to kill people out of revenge? About the lack of a father thing, lock them up so they cant reproduce and walk away on their kid, so their kid doesnt become a fu,ckup. And make sure the children dont hang out with thugs to pick up that behavior. Its very simple. Dont hang out around thugs.
Well he has in the past, but just not from any suggestions here. You'd have to comment on his blog.
Ha55ii doesn't accept user suggestions.
this game is great, but there NEEDS to be a flag button for "vote 4 secret message" or "vote for kewl explosion". Honestly, some of THE MOST VOTED projects are bait for votes! Pls fix this in some way!
Hey any of you guys like that band Yes?
I just watched a television commercial that said "it's as American as ditching the metric system". (~._.)
@tauss
Mine would be, too, if I wasn't forced to update to Windows 10.
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Ahh, the debate lives on.
You're welcome. :D
@amazingdude
There is SOOOOOOOOOO much more psychology behind why criminals commit crimes than "their parents didn't raise them right". Most murders, for example, are done out of revenge or jealousy, not a bad childhood home. Being a criminal is not something you're born as or raised as. The parent being the reason for a crime committed (omitting crimes being done against one's parent(s)) is not extremely common, and even then, it's usually because a parent was absent, not because the parent was a criminal and the child is following their example. The lack of a male authority figure (or just a bad one) is͏ ͏e͏xtremely detrimental to a child's life. Crimes committed by these people tend to be done because they seek approval from someone they've appointed as their dominate male authority figure, often someone who's lived their life in crime. It's a cycle: the male in question ALSO likely grew up without a proper male authority figure and looked up to someone who lived THEIR life in crime. This accounts for about 75% of convicted criminals; the rest are mostly crimes done out of revenge, jealousy, greed, etc.
TL;DR "I suffered bad parenting" is a rare excuse for a convict.
How am I still in fourth place? I have only made two projects this entire month!
Ironically my windows 7 is going to have its 7th birthday next year. (:
dear god do you even know how storms work? Hurricanes REQUIRE heat to exist.
@amazingdude
Is that really the main reason? What if the parents were never caught to begin with? What if it wasn't actually the parents' fault and the child grew up in a bad neighborhood or their friends encouraged them to commit crimes?
@TK
Eye-for-an-eye was a bit extreme, but I agree with its idea. At least they were attempting to make the criminals understand why what they did was bad. The closure problem would be solved once everyone got used to the system, or at least started seeing it the way I do.
@Hotdogeater
1C is the high estimate. Ice is melting at similar rates as during the medieval warm period. Melting ice an rising sea levels are not a concern. All that "storm energy" stuff is pure bullsh,it made up to scare us into supporting their green conspiracy.
@Draco
Ones with troubled childhoods are because their parents committed crimes but werent locked up long enough, so they had a kid and fu,cked it up. What we need to do is lock them up for longer so they cant reproduce and spread crime to their children. Crime will drop because there will be less criminals being born, and we should get all the mentally unstable ones eventually since that is genetic.
If someones unfixable, best to execute them so we dont have to waste money on a lost soul.
@Vidkunssonn
Honestly that would make everyone too scared to make small mistakes and we'd all be nervous wrecks. I'd be down for death instead of 5year+ prison however.
I don't actually have a horse in the death penalty thing, but I feel like I should point out that the concept of punishment has always been more for the benefit of the victim/state as a way to provide a sense of fairness or closure than it was about actually preventing a particular crime. That's why most classic punishments mimic the crime- fining thieves, jailing slavers/kidnappers, executing murderers, eye-for-an-eye, etc.
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We could always turn into that one society from that one episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where all crimes committed are punished by on-sight execution, despite the severity of the crime itself (both murder and stepping on the grass is punishable by death). THAT will put fear in criminals.
Then again, I don't want everyone wearing togas and f͏u͏c͏king each other because of the decreased societal modesty..
@amazingdude
Right now we have sane criminals with troubled pasts and mentally unstable criminals. We should have just mentally unstable criminals under the new system. That's a win. Unless the vast majority of today's criminals should actually be considered "insane", there would be a very noticeable difference.
"Unfixable" criminals probably wouldn't be scared of even public executions. Or at least the more major cases.
More energy for storms usually means they get bigger and worse, and rapidly growing hurricanes usually aren't a good thing, especially if they're moving towards a major city. Rapidly growing hurricanes are especially bad because if they're at cat 1 in the evening and cat 5 by morning, that city probably wasn't prepared for a cat 5 and significant casualties could be expected from that. Also, we just hit another subject! R.I.P peace in the comment board Aug 6- Aug 7
@ad
We could warm between 1C and 3C. Either way, ice (specifically on-land ice) is gonna melt and raise sea levels. Dont worry about the ice in the ocean, that doesn't make a difference when it melts. Also, theres gonna be more energy for storms and especially hurricanes.
@Hotdogeater
Yes we are 1C above 1900 levels, and we may warm 1C more in the next 100 years. Nature.
@Draco
More criminals will appear. Rehabilitation does not work. Crime might go down, but not by much to be noticable. Sombody fu,cked up enough to commit those crimes are probably unfixable and cant understand why they're there, so why even try? Bring back public executions. That'll scare them.
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@amazingdude
Well, the idea is to prevent the murders from happening by giving as many people as possible a decent childhood and education where they not only learn laws and ethics but actually understand them and why they're there, something a lot of parents choose not or are unable to provide for the next generation. Personally, I believe that this is one of the most common causes for crime in general. At least try to rehabilitate them now while we prepare further generations. Then, assuming it works well, we won't have to execute nor rehabilitate many criminals because they won't commit the crimes in the first place.
I recognize that you have the eugenics approach with criminals, as previously discussed: kill off the bad to promote good, unless this is where the conversation branched off of and this side-note is useless. In which case, forget I said it; my memory isn't that great.
And yes, this is a bit late because I was away.
this comment section is awful
just made a thing "inflatable toys"
gravity is off, just turn it on and watch how the objects act all air-filled-like
Also, had the bombs not been dropped, Japan would probably have been in a similar situation to Korea.
Atleast we didn't have to deal with a nuclear attack at any other point in history. Also, we're already 1C above pre-industrial levels.
@amazingdude: Insisting that somebody has to "win" takes the fun out of arguing.
@hotdogeater: Conventional warfare had proven even worse; the Imperial government was spreading propaganda that the US was committing warcrimes everywhere they occupied, so whole populations would commit suicide to save themselves before they even saw GIs up close.
Or if the US killing nearly 200000 people and obliterating two cities at the end of WWII was justified
Oh and if you REALLY want something to debate over, how about pollution in the US that's a good topic.Or how teachers are not getting paid enough.
Lol. I honestly am happy this debate was over. I was going to order a chatroom but since everyone is over it
I won't HOPEFULLY, someone calls an asylum to come and pick up amazing dude cause i think he's lost a few screws.
We can't even agree on what constitutes as scientific proof- so nobody "wins". Best to just drop that boring topic entirely until we can agree on a scientific authority to source.
Why are you obsessed with winning anyway? Are you getting paid or something?
Oh, boy...
The dude's finally gone off the deep end...
Also, a new study says that even if we shut off all our greenhouse emissions right now, which obviously wont happen, we would hit about 1.3C above preindustrial levels by 2100. However, we are most likely to be at 2C to 5C above preindustrial levels by then.
You cant reply if you dont give us something to reply to.
all you guys are fu,cking LOSERS! You LOST THE DEBATE!!! YOU GIVE UP!!!
I FU,CKING HAD IT FROM THE BEGININNING! THE WORLD IS FINALLY WAKING UP TO THE TRUTH ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE!!!
YALL A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO BLINDLY EAT UP WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU!!!!
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Skyler where r u .-.
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How do you mean?
Any old user still available here?
@AD
Theres still a few flash games left.
Good idea, lets get us all into the discord server so we can finally settle this.
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