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#6ppKck5h Dec 12,2019 07:17HydroManHere's what you three did the best at:
skyk's was really fun to play around with, I really loved how it hated water and flew away :)
TeamDoodleBlocks was really funny, made me laugh out loud (still smile when I remember it)
bob4koolest's (wow the ['s] makes your username hard to say) had so many joints I knew it was a time-consuming upload... and Pheonix's are such a cool mythical beast
#JVc0sgFG Dec 12,2019 00:41TeamDoodleBlocks@skyk that actually means a lot coming from someone who’s been playing since 2013.
#G3R0T1O6 Dec 11,2019 11:12skykHonestly, I would have expected Rabbit Rave to win
#FciIDoRH Dec 11,2019 11:07TeamDoodleBlocksOod 2nd place... I wasn't expecting that but okay.
Yeah everyone did really good.
#6ppKck5h Dec 11,2019 09:09HydroManyou did a good job @bob4koolest :) 500+ joints that's insane patience and skill to get them all right.
#Cva07GF2 Dec 11,2019 08:13bob4koolest@HydroMan Yay 3rd :D
#AtKhzai7 Dec 11,2019 07:06
But this is *exactly* the point I'm trying to make. If a PG2 vote is worth more than a PG1 vote, you have to pay attention to precisely how many votes you would be getting, it isn't simply "PG1 is better for votes".
I'm sorry if I'm pushing this on you too much, but it just sounds to me like you would prefer uploading something on PG1 to get 300 votes rather than on PG2 to get 100 votes, *even though* on PG2 your work would be pretty widespread and famous compared to PG1 where it would easily fade into obscurity. When viewed in this context, doesn't uploading on PG1 rather than PG2 sound...pointless?
I love how you're talking about a side point I brought up which had nothing to do with my main point. ;P
I should've done that when I was uploading omg. o.O
Yes, that is the definition of "relative". XD Just extending your reasoning, that means we can't compare PG1 votes with PG2 votes because they just aren't the same (yes, there are correlations but even those aren't very equal given the different ages of the two games and their different levels of popularity).
#6ppKck5h Dec 11,2019 06:36HydroManyou are right I'm working on the results now
#JVc0sgFG Dec 11,2019 03:45TeamDoodleBlocks@Hydroman
Hey weren’t we suppose to know the winners of the JOC contest today, I’m not trying to rush you or anything on judging I’m just curious.
#cISbVs0A Dec 10,2019 10:54R101I wanna make a working Last Prism.
#cISbVs0A Dec 10,2019 10:52R101We should make a campaign to make PG2 more popular than PG1. My works currently get about 1/8 the votes they get on PG1.
#G3R0T1O6 Dec 10,2019 10:49skykUnfortunately, I can't even make a measly 100k from my Powder Game 2 uploads. I'd think about making a Patreon, but what am I supposed to offer when everyone knows I upload every day anyway?
#Cva07GF2 Dec 10,2019 10:31bob4koolest@skyk lol you would have $714740 I would have $97280 most people would probably have at least $1,000
Also I'm with @Hydroman on that -- it really depends on how many people their are and how many view your upload.
#G3R0T1O6 Dec 10,2019 08:41skykI may not have as many votes as Earth Editor, but I think I have enough to say that more votes =/= more happiness.
I think we should give users twenty bucks for every vote they've ever gotten.
#6ppKck5h Dec 10,2019 05:09HydroManPG1 has more users meaning they get more votes also there's always the guys who put "delete" even if they do actually like it. We can never create an exact algorithm because there are too many anomalies... in theory 1 PG1 vote would equal 1 PG2 vote because the value is literally the same 1 person clicks vote you get one vote. It really only depends on the user themselves. You can look at my PG1 and 2 uploads my PG1 stuff gets WAY more votes even in my opinion my PG2 work is better, it is really just a question of who the people are that see the project and how many of them there are.
#JVc0sgFG Dec 09,2019 22:56TeamDoodleBlocksAlso speaking of votes I’ve done some “researching” and estimating on the value of PG1 between PG2
The average number of votes a project gets on PG1 is about 15 - 35
The average number of votes a project gets on PG2 is about 10 - 20
So dividing those numbers together brings up the estimate that..
1 PG1 Vote approximately equals to a rough estimate 0.67 PG2 votes
So PG1 projects usually get double the amount of votes a PG2 project does.
#JVc0sgFG Dec 09,2019 21:44TeamDoodleBlocksWhat votes mean to me is that people liked my project. Simple as that
#JAfSvRYW Dec 09,2019 20:18
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhTechnically a vote is worth
and a few pixels on your screen
#6ppKck5h Dec 09,2019 15:25HydroManOk @bob4koolest+R101 these points make sense. but I still feel it was about the votes this had nothing to do with building... https://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/dust2/69834.html
It's fine if you want votes, it makes people more likely to click on your uploads and to gauge what people are interested in, it's also fun to climb the leaderboards to feel like a champ. I like getting votes and you shouldn't be ashamed if you do too. this talk about how votes are "informal" is silly in my opinion because it's a game not work we all come to have fun if votes are fun for people then don't talk bad on them. I like talking about the relativity of numbers Sigma but I don't see how votes can be relative when people are comparing them to how many votes other uploads have gotten I've never heard anyone compare they're votes to atoms or u.s. dollars :)
#cISbVs0A Dec 09,2019 13:31R101Only small detail because an airship can only have so much interior before it can’t fly, Hydroman!
#Cva07GF2 Dec 09,2019 12:34bob4koolest@HydroMan ...but I did use the votes as a benchmark to improve -- I did get better at building designing since people liked it a lot
#6ppKck5h Dec 09,2019 07:30HydroMan@bob4koolest you say you don't care about votes, and yet you did the civilization game which was all about getting yourself votes. @R101 it's nice I voted... but why did you only detail a little bit?
#Cva07GF2 Dec 08,2019 10:21bob4koolestThe only purpose votes serve to me is as a quality measure for my own uploads -- I want to see what uploads people like and what uploads people don't so I can improve in my skill -- they have no other purpose for me. This is just a small game with only a few hundred users so I really don't care much about votes beyond that.
#6ppKck5h Dec 08,2019 08:59HydroMan2nd place on find timmy contest woohoo!
#KBqCoxJh Dec 08,2019 06:36HimenzHallo. It's been a while since I've been here. How are all of you doing?
#AtKhzai7 Dec 08,2019 05:36
SigmaAnd I fully agree, skyk, but for some reason people seem to think 1 PG1 vote = 1 PG2 vote, which it most certainly does not. Appreciation in one's work doesn't make sense when it's based on "Ooh! Mine comes with a *really* big number, bigger than anything I've seen before!"
Kind of like when someone says "1,000,000 is a big number." A million of what? If atoms, that's not very big at all.
#G3R0T1O6 Dec 08,2019 05:04skykVotes do serve a sort of purpose when it comes to exposure, as higher-rated uploads are sorted higher when filtered that way, but you'd think that would only matter if you hold your own uploads in high enough regard that you'd want people to see them whether they can vote or not. That doesn't make much sense for the deceptive uploads that often try to trick people into voting.
#JAfSvRYW Dec 08,2019 04:39
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI think people only care because getting a high amount of people to not hit delete on a creation you worked on, hard or not, would result in a sense of accomplishment. Even though the votes are next to useless, they still show that some people appreciate what you make.
Or those people are kids who think they are famous after getting votes...
#AtKhzai7 Dec 08,2019 04:26
SigmaSerious question: why do people care about the amount of votes that they're getting?
First of all votes are this abstract construction on this site whose sole purpose is as a really informal measure on upload popularity, and this community is treating it like they're actually worth something to them.
But continuing anyway, a really mediocre upload might get 100 votes in PG1, while a really good upload might get 100 votes in PG2. Notice that in PG1 100 votes is a pretty small amount of votes considering how many people have actually gotten, whereas on PG2 it's pretty substantial.
If you went to Iran you can get 80,000 rial (Iranian currency) probably pretty quickly. Does that sound like a lot of money? You can only buy 2 US dollars worth of stuff with that though. The "amount" of votes you get is absolutely pointless without some kind of reference to go by, and those references can be very, very different.
#HyTW9x0e Dec 08,2019 04:17
Pg loverHey how can i get this its not on the app store
#cISbVs0A Dec 08,2019 04:03R101Alright, when PG2 starts to get the same amount of votes as PG1, some one please alert me. Currently, one of my uploads on PG1 gets about 60 votes.
#AtKhzai7 Dec 08,2019 03:12
Press space and it should stop on the next frame. I know this because my old computer was very slow and <1fps was quite common >:
#DnlBjdUr Dec 07,2019 12:00bob4koolestLooks like people really love chain reactions. Should I make Chain Reaction 4 next?
#JAfSvRYW Dec 07,2019 07:21
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoh its pg1
#JAfSvRYW Dec 07,2019 07:16
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhow did he get 300 votes tho? hax or..
#M40Pd4bW Dec 06,2019 22:22Boiled Potato #2Can I do weapon contest in PG1?
#6ppKck5h Dec 06,2019 07:09HydroManDude I'm low key pissed off that he would do that it takes advantage of people wanting to see a cool reaction and turns it into votes, but the worse part is that he was a vote scam fighter who betrayed us that makes it worse in my opinion.
#JVc0sgFG Dec 05,2019 21:42TeamDoodleBlocks@R101
If I where you, I would stick to PG2 because the second game has more to offer and the comment section for PG2 is more productive than the PG1 comments.
However do whatever you want.
#6ppKck5h Dec 05,2019 13:28HydroMan@R101 you can upload on both because it's not hard to make as hard to make PG1 uploads because it's much more basic... jk :D I'm just very partial to PG2 but I do a bit of PG1 the two can coexist it's not a 1 or the other deal
#Q93lI0GL Dec 05,2019 10:09bepisOops- imlost my deforkle account. Just so you know i am deforkle just another account.
#G3R0T1O6 Dec 05,2019 09:37skykUpload to whichever one you like more. It's not about the notes
#cISbVs0A Dec 05,2019 08:28R101Even though I get much less votes here than PG1, should I come back to PG2?
#AubyEJJS Dec 05,2019 06:59danstroyerWait help I can't click stop-
#AubyEJJS Dec 05,2019 06:59danstroyerSpeed 8
We did it boiz.
#47JJMbm1 Dec 05,2019 05:20
#Q93lI0GL Dec 04,2019 20:46DeforkleOh yeah i forgot XD. you all are following the major rules. The due date will probobly be christmas, since this contest is a little hard.
#6ppKck5h Dec 04,2019 13:39HydroManO um thanks, but the ram was actually skyk's :/ but I'm working on something big for the weapon contest.
#Q93lI0GL Dec 04,2019 09:07DeforkleHydroMan the ram is amazing. Very cool.
#6ppKck5h Dec 04,2019 07:13HydroManhehehehehe I'm first monthly... for now :l
#DnlBjdUr Dec 04,2019 06:36bob4koolest@TDB Congrats also your bumped me down to 4th XD also I only need 15 more votes to get #4 on total rankings
#JVc0sgFG Dec 04,2019 03:40TeamDoodleBlocksOof I made it third place on the monthly ranking, so uh.. thanks guys and gals...
#6ppKck5h Dec 03,2019 06:44HydroManI have a new upload I forgot the link :/ and I'm too lazy to go back right now its called
#1yL2PG7B Dec 03,2019 01:15dominic035i'm back, yay
#Q93lI0GL Dec 02,2019 22:52DeforkleThecontest has started
#Cva07GF2 Dec 02,2019 08:58bob4koolest@Deforkle I'll enter too
#6ppKck5h Dec 02,2019 05:52HydroManI'd enter that contest
#Q93lI0GL Dec 01,2019 23:49DeforkleI am thinking of a new contest where people create weapons for players ( the square and round head guys). The rules are;
1. It must be a weapon that can kill fighters
2. It must not kill the player itself
3. No armor is allowed.
4. Have fun!
And finally, since it is called Player Gear Contest, you need PGC in the title.
#nv0GZWwr Dec 01,2019 09:43ISWTMTWTGVery nice! I didn't expect to see my old transistor design in there.
PS I know I haven't uploaded anything in a long time. I got bored with PG and felt like doing something else for a while.
#Q93lI0GL Nov 30,2019 08:32DeforkleDoes wizard count? The joint is keeping the orb on the player.
#6ppKck5h Nov 29,2019 04:52HydroManI mean not like the ones if PG2 hahahah. cool @Deforkle
@skyk I loved how the creepers really exploded
#Q93lI0GL Nov 29,2019 00:33DeforkleI just made markeess! Go check it out.
#Q93lI0GL Nov 28,2019 13:31DeforkleHammynipplerbag
#G3R0T1O6 Nov 28,2019 10:46skykHydroman: Organisms do have joints, though. I'm using a dozen of them to type this message :p
#6ppKck5h Nov 28,2019 10:28HydroManYou do have a point but we can count it as an organism for this contest because I'm not really looking for actual science, in real life no creature is made of joints nor do joints even exist so this whole thing is unrealistic anyway. please do not tell me what shouldn't count do our own contest for that.
#mNASdnMK Nov 28,2019 06:51ZappyRedstoneBacteriophage in non living it shouldn't count
#6ppKck5h Nov 28,2019 05:11HydroManOK, so far all uploads have been just fine you have all followed the major rules. If I was actually gonna disqualify someone I would just tell them to make a new project. I'm impressed will the work I've seen, none of you guys should stress it... um and about my example I named it the 12 dot hawk because I had no ideas it's not necessary to put the joint or dot number in the name but I'm fine if you have or will... also someone entered 2 projects that's fine but please don't spam about 100 projects into the contest trying to force a top 3 spot... anyways good work everyone but please I'm trying not to talk much about it to keep things fair -enjoy the contest :)
#Q93lI0GL Nov 28,2019 00:50DeforkleThe spiderp is not getting votes. What is wrong with it?
#9OofC7PB Nov 28,2019 00:26
Quick question, does my Bacteriophage qualify for JOC? It doesn't really move much so I'm just gonna pretend the block it stands on is a cell that it's injecting its RNA into to make more Bacteriophages. I think that's how it works?
#7brhEH8N Nov 27,2019 22:34
personhow do you create the explosion mapper?
#JVc0sgFG Nov 27,2019 21:41TeamDoodleBlocks@Hydroman
Hey I kinda forgot the rule of giving my JOC creature a name, It’s obviously a rabbit, but I never made a clear description on what it is. Would this leave me with a disqualification? Or am I still gonna be in the JOC contest with this entry?
#6ppKck5h Nov 27,2019 06:41HydroManmy meme made fun of volcanos nukes and stuff like that but i agree with ISWTMTWTG
mostly new guys do that stuff also I'm happy with how many people have already entered J.O.C.!
#nv0GZWwr Nov 27,2019 05:09ISWTMTWTG @ TDB Just vote scams. Nukes and volcanoes and stuff like that aren't interesting, but the people who upload them are mostly new and not very experienced, so I cut them a break.
#Cva07GF2 Nov 27,2019 04:30bob4koolest@TDB Volcanos, bombs, and random destruction
Also I'm starting tech contest #2 when HydroMan's contest ends.
#JVc0sgFG Nov 27,2019 03:45TeamDoodleBlocksHey I have a question for all of you, what projects do you hate the most?
#JVc0sgFG Nov 27,2019 00:55TeamDoodleBlocksSo I guess a find Timmy contest is happening, uh probably not gonna join considering it’s just attaching a ball to player 1 and making a level with that ball.
#9csTkyQX Nov 27,2019 00:41danstroyerI made a standing Bacteriophage
It's somewhat accurate
#6ppKck5h Nov 26,2019 05:15HydroManyou can judge and participate but you probably should upload it more as an example than a participant but I'm considering just having judges just the other judges content, the problem with this would be though that if a judge wins 1st place it would ruin the whole thing so judges cud only get up to 2nd place. I just want this contest to be fun and fair. I need up to 2 more judges but I'd need a way to communicate with other judges privately I could do e-mail or discord but it would be easiest if I am the only judge if nobody minds me be the only judge thats the easiest. I'm sorry for such a long boring message :/
#mMynnbfR Nov 26,2019 04:42Sneezing@blorghorg what ending date
#Cva07GF2 Nov 25,2019 23:52bob4koolest@HydroMan Also sure I'll be a judge but can I still participate?
#JVc0sgFG Nov 25,2019 22:42TeamDoodleBlocksIt’s been a while since I’ve seen a contest, sign me up
#M3dDFtBM Nov 25,2019 18:49
#lczsS4EF Nov 25,2019 11:58EntmanSounds neat. I'll think up something neat
(It's me, Danstroyer, this is my alt. It means I'm either on google for some reason or defending my SR2 rectangle in 100bit)
#G3R0T1O6 Nov 25,2019 10:57skykHydroMan: That's a fun idea for a contest. I better think of a novel organism for it.
#DnlBjdUr Nov 25,2019 10:44bob4koolest@HydroMan Ight imma sign up now
#YEUPfXQ5 Nov 25,2019 10:00
ThegamesmasnOof I’m going to not participate in this contest also sorry community for not being active the last 2 months school work caught up to me
#6ppKck5h Nov 25,2019 08:19HydroManJoint Organism Contest
I need to judges I've already made the contest upload I just need to add judges names
1. must seem and act like a living thing
2. must be joint based
3. must have a name (species name or like a pet name)
4. must have JOC in the upload title
5. you must have fun!
Winners will be declared in about 3-5 weeks must be uploaded before dec 10
there will be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place
Entries will be judged upon...
Anyways I need more 2 judges anybody want in? especially @bob4koolest becuase you'vedone this kinda thing before.
#oSO5Omm5 Nov 25,2019 06:30danstroyerI tried Sandspiel and fungus and plant interact pretty weirdly.
I like how fungus "blooms" every now and then
#N6FHhRZL Nov 25,2019 04:15bob4koolestCool - like that detail :D
#Cva07GF2 Nov 24,2019 22:57bob4koolest@HydroMan Maybe if we start more contests then it will motivate people to make better uploads
#FciIDoRH Nov 24,2019 15:16TeamDoodleBlocks@ZappyRestone
Yeah, I haven't forgotten that...
uh, you'll get it sometime this decade, or something. Idk PayPal kinda locked me out my account won't let me send money or even use it myself, I have like $69 dollars in that account too.